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RESEARCH RESULTS TO OUR EMAIL INQUIRY: We would like to know if you feel there is a need for greater unity between theosophical groups? Please respond with your thoughts. And, let us know if it is okay to publish these responses on the International Theosophy Conferences website. Hope to hear from as many as possible.
Sally and James Colbert, International Theosophy Conferences scolbert@theosconf.org
I received your question concerning unity between theosophical groups some number of months ago. Unfortunately more mundane yet pressing matters have been a distraction for a while. But now it is time for me to get back to considering and answering your question.
First I must tell you that, even though I have been studying and contemplating theosophical principles and ideas and have considered the writings of Madam Blavatsky and the Theosophical Society to be basically my “bible†as far as religion is concerned for well over thirty years, I am not now nor have I ever been a member of any of the branches of the Society. So you may consider my perspective to be one of an “outsider†but even as such it may be of some interest and even of some use to you.Should there be more unity among theosophical groups?
The answer may be found in the most fundamental principle and teaching of the Theosophical Society and of theosophy itself. The three original Objects of the society: the study of the powers latent in man, the study of the Wisdom scriptures of the world, and even the first object of the establishment of Universal Brotherhood of Mankind have one underlying foundation: the principle of pantheism the concept that all people, all life, all things are infused with and in fact are part of one infinite, universal all-pervasive Divinity.
And so, the first Object of the Society Universal Brotherhood, is not merely some nice idealistic idea that would be a good goal to work towards some day. It is a direct expression in practical human terms of the most essential teaching of theosophy the most fundamental principle concerning the Nature of All Things. And for each and every person who even considers walking the Path of Wisdom, the realization of the essential importance of Universal Brotherhood is the very first step on that Path.Yes, all societies and branches of societies which claim the name of theosophy must without question be united in a common goal: the promotion amongst their fellows of mankind the idea and the feeling of Universal Brotherhood and the principle that ALL mankind (and, in fact, all life) as the Christian apostle Paul said, live, move and have their being, in Divinity.
And not only amongst the Theosophical groups and branches of the Society, but wherever this fundamental Principle may take root among mankind, it must be promoted in the true spirit of Universal Brotherhood. This is certainly not to say that the Theosophical Societies ought to embrace every fluffy new age idea and movement that comes along, but that all people, regardless of their religion or individual creed, who recognize even the first spark of this Divine Principle must be embraced as Brothers and Sisters and encouraged towards the goal of its realization.It may even surprise members of theosophical groups to see where the beginning of the realization of this Principle may be found among the individuals and religions of mankind. In fact, the most succinct and practical expression of it that I have ever heard was during a Christmas Eve Mass a number of years ago that I attended with my brother and his family at a local Catholic university where the Bishop admonished the parish that, in our search for a relationship with Christ, we must learn to see Christ in each other, and in that recognition of Christ in each of our fellows among mankind, we must grow in true respect and Love for our all of our brothers and sisters. Hopefully, the various branches of theosophy can be as theosophical in their hearts, minds, and actions as the Catholic Church occasionally is in its admonishments.
Yes, theosophical groups not only ought to promote unity, but, by the very nature of their most fundamental Principle they MUST be unified in their goal to promote the True realization of this most basic and sacred Principle in themselves and amongst mankind.
Sincerely, (And yes, you may use all or part of what I have written here wherever you wish, with or without credit given and with or without modification as long as the essential nature of the message remains intact.)
From: Peter Kosen theosophia@earthlink.net
Absolutely, I feel a sincere calling for greater union in our intent! Enough with infighting and dogma-I remain hopeful! :)
Warmly,
Xochi
From: "Quest Books publicity-Xochi Adame" <publicity@questbooks.net>
I absolutely feel there is a need for greater unity between theosophical groups. Yes you can publish this response.
Tom Moberg
Secretary of the Susquehanna Study Center of the TSA
From: "Tom Moberg" <tmoberg@frontiernet.net>
I'd rather you didn't use my name, but you may publish my question/comments, which are....What would "greater unity" look like? I never have a clue as to what people mean when they bring this up. We all study HPB: under karma, we are drawn to work with other efforts that are congenial to our nature. - is there a problem I don't understand?
love to you both - and of course with great appreciation for your efforts.
Thanks for putting so much thought and strategy into the conference plans, really helpful.
I'm also attaching a separate document with a few thoughts on your other question, about unity among various groups. My comments there apply to my comments on this. You know them well already, I suspect.
ULT not an "entity?" Only "principles and ideals?" -- well, then we'll have to throw away the Declaration of Independence and with it the entire U.S. of A. In any case, your comment that students have different opinions on this, and how the centennial is a way for students to express their heartfelt gratitude to RC and ULT, was right-on.
The real problem with all ULTs is their stubborn refusal to collaborate with non-ULT groups, Theosophical or otherwise. No breaking news there. But this why Lodges have not grown, and have actually shrunk in size and vitality during the hundred years. In Judge's day there were hundreds of Lodges all across the country. What happened?
One can intellectualize the arguments for and against ad mortem, but my "independently devoted view" is that, in reality, most every ULT Associate with a pulse rate wants to collaborate with like-minded groups, but is prevented from doing so by a small minority of self-appointed, misguided faith-keepers.
That is unacceptable and unsupportable, and so my preference would be for the entire ITC conference to be held at the LA building in August. The dates are excellent, and certainly the Thursday is ideal for a centennial celebration, with a party, music and balloons outside in the yard please.
My coolly rational arguments for my choice are, briefly, as follows:
1. The presumption of separate venues is inconsistent with the ULT Declaration, which promotes exemplification in practice of "a profounder conviction of Universal Brotherhood." Isolationism is the antithesis of Brotherhood.
2. Further, the "unassailable basis for union," and "sole bond" between students, as stated in the Declaration, is based on "similarity" not "sameness" of aim, purpose and teaching.
3. The written policy of ULT plainly declares, "It regards as Theosophists all who are engaged in the true service of Humanity, without distinction of race, creed, sex, condition or organization."
4. Lastly: "The true Theosophist belongs to no cult or sect; yet belongs to each and all."
Unless there are secret ideologues who rule on the definition of what constitutes "true service," and "true Theosophist," the ideas speak for themselves. To act contrary to these principles, in my opinion, is a disservice to students, and to Robert Crosbie and his vision.
Namaste,
Odin
From: Odin <otownley@gmail.com>
The following maybe is not what you had in your minds. I'm thinking about a non-formal theosophical site. On it you can: Describe some local events, ask questions, share your thoughts on anything, ask for help in dilemmas of life, express your concerns and confusions, learn to be free communicating, for we are a big family scattered all over the world. It will give the opportunity to receive and give to each other a lot of comfort, which many of us want. I am the only theosophist in my area (hundreds of miles around). I think many other theosophists are in the same situation. Inter-nationality of participants will give this site even more flavor. Laura Leshchiner From: Laura Leshchiner <alexlaural@yahoo.com>
This is a very good idea. Initially there may be some resistance from some quarters but as a first step, all can accept the teachings that came directly from the Masters. This will lead to acceptance of H.P.B. as their agent and messenger in the physical world. Union is strength and harmony, and well-regulated simultaneous efforts will be very beneficial. This has been the secret of all associations since mankind existed. Only by building on a sure foundation of demonstrated fact can the superstructure be stable. Individualism can be overcome by the feeling of solidarity and brotherhood.
To quote from "The Key to Theosophy" "....the next impulse will find a numerous and united body of people ready to welcome the new torch-bearer of Truth.
You may publish my views on the International Theosophy Conferences website. From: Boman & Hilla Munshi <bomanhilla@hotmail.com>
Yesterday in the afternoon I received your e. mail through it you ask me about the need of unity between all of the theosophist around the world. Of course that I think that there is a very needness about it. Resides ir souled ve excelente tú share some material with theosophist theaches in order to spread our teachings around the world. Excuse me for my English. My native language is Spanish. Brotherly. Manuel Alba. From Bolivia. From: "Manuel Alba" <viajero@supernet.com.bo>
First, a comment on the date. It is not accidental that the conferences over the years have been in August. It was chosen by Wylda Dade, who started the gathering and held it at her house for 6 years, and it is the weekend closest to HPB's birthday. The advantage of a consistent date is that people can plan their summer knowing when the conference will be held.
It makes sense to me to select the Radisson Hotel because of the cost and the available meeting room. We could negotiate parking, perhaps. It is nice to have a total amount to give to people and not include a lot of add-ons. Another plus is that it is within walking distance of the Lodge.
I think there should be one program and people can choose to attend or not. You have suggested using a hotel meeting room as well as the LA Lodge auditorium and Pathfinder Lot. That sounds like a good plan to me. You include some time for socializing which is great. It is a valuable way to spark each other and adds to the enjoyment of being together.
With all good wishes, Gail Stevenson From: "Gail Stevenson" <gl_stevenson@hotmail.com>
Yes, I think there should be greater sharing (unity?) among theosophical groups. Theosophy is a body of knowledge available to every human being on the planet. So, all of us have the opportunity to discuss and hear insights regarding the reading and study. Each of us is a piece of a large puzzle, and can possibly enhance the big picture from our particular point of view. One humanity, one Theosophy. Susan Ockerse, Providence Study Center, Theosophical Society in America. From: Susan Ockerse <susanockerse@cox.net>
Thanks for the periodic emails. Time has a way of getting away, doesn't it? I just wanted to say hello to you two, and to let you know I hadn't quite dropped off the planet. Our publication work has made some pressing demands (sorry -- couldn't resist); this and other duties have kept me pretty well occupied. Doubtless the same for you.
All is well here, with the usual daily challenges to keep us grounded (in a good way) and optimistic, as theosophy quietly works its magic in the world. One need only think of how things were a century ago to be encouraged, yet reminded that humanity is still in its 4th round. We're fortunate to be able to participate in this noble effort.
Hope you're both well. Cheers for the new year, and wishing you a beautiful sacred season.
From: Will Thackara <wthackara@charter.net>
Subject: Unity Unity is a fact. Whatever forms our work takes in the future incarnation begins here and now. If there are obstacles and difficulties it is because they are needed in the process of creating these new forms. The challenges have been big indicating great changes on the inner planes. Our duty is to raise up all matter, to be a better instrument for the Highest thoughts we are capable of. This all students of whatever stripe are doing. We just need to keep doing this as best we can from our own centre. Whenever a group of students becomes strong and their work becomes useful to others, it is good to know about this, so that the resources can be put to use by all. It is helpful to have a central location for all efforts to be linked.
The postings from students around the world are used in smaller groups to expand on the principles of Theosophy.
The magazines highlight ideas from the larger texts of Theosophy, and it is of great benefit to have us all reading the same articles monthly. Imagine what that looks like on the higher planes!
Mr. Judge spoke of "no method" , but to use all methods. Conferences are a source of great strength, and even if we cannot physically go, the joining together helps us all. Is it possible that we need students to act as seems best and to leave results to the Law. We should avoid having an opinion about the work of others putting all our heart and mind into what we see needs to be done.
As other spiritual groups around London Ontario Canada have expanded the lodge has gotten smaller. It is difficult to keep up with all the diversity. Over the years though, many have dropped into the lodge. If they all came to one meeting there would not be enough room.
What I find most puzzling though is when enquirers come in and ask if we ever study anything else besides Blavatsky and Judge. When asked if they have ever read or studied these books, they say no, or that they read them a little. They wanted us at the lodge to be more open, but they did not want to study the Key or the Secret Doctrine or The Ocean When asked why, they said because it was too hard, written too long ago and there are better writers now. We do have film nights and refer to modern and ancient philosophers, scientists, poets, etc. but it still does not change the concept that we are "stuck" reading 100 year old books!! (beware of change) Then we have students who stomp out when there is anything mentioned of Plato , Emerson , Jill Bolte Taylor ,Tolle or other writers saying that the meeting is getting sidetracked from the original lines. My question is "Is it possible that all such thoughts are of the lower manas? Is the search for Truth the basis of Unity, the position beyond opinion? Lower manas will do anything to avoid that task. From: "John Gray" <classiccontours@sympatico.ca>
Sorry to be so late in responding, no excuse. Of course I feel there should be greater unity between theosophical groups. We really should be one. If organizational technicalities prevent that, at least there should be intimate communication and inclusion of all groups concerned. We are too few to be fragmented. I am aware of various groups but prefer to think in terms of unity rather than division. We need each other. in Brotherhood, Russ Nelson That's very short and to the point, hardly worth publishing, but you may if you wish. From: NelsonNo1@aol.com
The question of unity among the various Theosophical groups comes up often. Perhaps that is because in the past there has been a rather "holier than thou" attitude among some members of the various groups. By its very nature, such an attitude is untheosophical. Blavatsky emphasized that difference of opinion is important in the TS. Difference of opinion makes us think. Fundamentalism can be and often is dangerous. All we need do is to look at the religious fundamentalists in the world to see the horror that frequently comes from rigid, intransigent positions.
HPB said that The Secret Doctrine was written "to appeal to the inner faculties," and that if we expected to find The Truth in it we will be disappointed. Unfortunately, some believe that they know the Truth because they have read what their favorite Theosophist has written. Repeating the words will never do. It is the music beyond the words that is important. It is by pondering the great principles of Theosophy with an open mind that we may gain insight into what has been called the unspeakable, and unthinkable Truth.
In the TS, Adyar, each group is bound to the parent body only by the declared objects of the Society. Otherwise each group is autonomous. Personally I have always regarded members of all Theosophical groups as fellow Theosophists, just as I regard all branches of the TS, Adyar, as groups of fellow Theosophists. Organizationally, I think it is probably best to accept that the different groups function autonomously rather than trying to unite them under one organizational umbrella. It seems to me that the important thing is that we all strive to regard one another as fellow travelers in search of Truth rather than as groups who have already found it. If we take that point of view, perhaps the rancor of the past will die a peaceful death and we can celebrate a new birth in the Theosophical movement, one where we are together differently. I rather suspect that HPB would like that.
Ed Abdill PS: You may publish my comments. From: "Ed Abdill" <eabdill@nyc.rr.com
Yes this is a need. It is so easy to get caught in one's own world, even in Theosophy. From: tsincov@bellsouth.net
The unification of soul and physical body (Light) provides the insight into the unification of all humans as friends. This is why the smile is now and has always been the most steadfast universal language. The theosophical smile is the earnest smile and is something that everybody everywhere does to offer the same expression in the same language always. There can be no seperateness in this so at least smile even if you feel that all else has failed. All will be seen more clearly. Namaste, From: David Wright, aathmarai@yahoo.com
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